Below is a study starting with 0 mana in each session casting non-stop Nullify Life Magic Self (no attempt to regain mana). In each case mana needed to cast ranged from 6 mana to 22 mana. I did not use a macro to do this, so further study could be beneficial. @ 330 Mana Conversion and 380 Life 2 X 15 minute sessions (alternated between 300 skill to help adjust for lag) Spell: Nullify Life Magic Self Total cast attempts: 106 Total successful: 106 Average: 3.5 successful casts per minute @300 Mana Conversion and 380 Life 2 X 15 minute sessions (alternated between 330 skill to help adjust for lag) Spell: Nullify Life Magic Self Total cast attempts: 85 Total successful: 85 Average: 2.8 successful casts per minute Comparison: @330 Mana Conversion Skill converted 25% more spells than @300 Mana Conversion Skill in a given time period with sub 22 Mana. Grandpa http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=19564585&replies=2 http://www.mirth.homestead.com/